{"id":37021,"date":"2026-04-10T09:17:05","date_gmt":"2026-04-10T07:17:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/drogriporter.hu\/?p=37021"},"modified":"2026-04-10T10:54:51","modified_gmt":"2026-04-10T08:54:51","slug":"dismantling-orbans-system-drugreporter-interviewed-by-arild-knutsen","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/drogriporter.hu\/en\/dismantling-orbans-system-drugreporter-interviewed-by-arild-knutsen\/","title":{"rendered":"Dismantling Orb\u00e1n\u2019s System &#8211; Drugreporter interviewed by Arild Knutsen"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>As Hungary heads toward a pivotal election, the camera turns on two of its most prominent drug policy advocates. In this interview conducted by Arild Knutsen, Drugreporter founders P\u00e9ter S\u00e1rosi and Istv\u00e1n G\u00e1bor Tak\u00e1cs reflect on decades of activism\u2014and explain why they are now taking their fight to the streets to challenge an increasingly repressive system.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/X7ypHQ2UTSo\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" style=\"\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Also available in podcast format:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-spotify wp-block-embed-spotify wp-embed-aspect-21-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio no-fitvids\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe title=\"Spotify Embed: Dismantling Orb\u00e1n\u2019s System - Drugreporter interviewed by Arild Knutsen\" style=\"border-radius: 12px\" width=\"624\" height=\"351\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen allow=\"autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; fullscreen; picture-in-picture\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/embed\/episode\/3ceepU2FbLFokuv4j7DLgr\/video?si=55ae7bf214c34f60&amp;utm_source=oembed\"><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>For more than twenty years, P\u00e9ter S\u00e1rosi and Istv\u00e1n G\u00e1bor Tak\u00e1cs have been the eyes and the ears of the global drug policy movement. Through their video activism with Drugreporter and the Rights Reporter Foundation, they have documented every major milestone and interviewed the most influential figures in the field. They have been our open door to the world of drug policy reform. They also train others in working for political influence and video activism.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>With the upcoming election in Hungary, it was time to turn the camera around. At this year\u2019s CND in Vienna, I sat down with them to talk about their story and the critical situation in their home country. As Hungary approaches the pivotal election, the political climate has grown increasingly tense. The Hungarian government is very close to Putin, the dictator of Russia, and they are importing some of the policies of Russia.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In February last year, the Prime Minister, Viktor Orb\u00e1n, <a href=\"https:\/\/drogriporter.hu\/en\/policing-nightlife-hungarys-drug-war-turns-into-a-cultural-battle\/\">launched a so-called war on drugs in Hungary<\/a>. This resulted in a lot of young people who use drugs being arrested. They also wrote into the constitution that it is illegal to use, possess, and \u00abpromote\u00bb drugs\u2014something that implies that the drug policy and harm reduction movement might be stormed and closed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>They started to raid music clubs. They used humiliating search-infringing measures, and they sometimes exposed the arrested young people to such risks that they had reason to fear for their lives.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In response, P\u00e9ter S\u00e1rosi and Istv\u00e1n G\u00e1bor Tak\u00e1cs have moved from behind the lens to the front lines. They are the initiators behind a series of &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/drogriporter.hu\/en\/dance-protest-against-the-drug-war-goes-nationwide-in-hungary\/\">dance protests<\/a>&#8221; that have seen <a href=\"https:\/\/drogriporter.hu\/en\/dance-for-freedom-rave-revolution-in-front-of-the-hungarian-parliament\/\">thousands of Hungarians occupy the streets of Budapest<\/a>. By using the rhythmic energy of electronic music as a political tool, they have created a platform for a generation that refuses to be silenced.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For them, this is a strategic move to reoccupy public and civic spaces that the government has attempted to marginalize\u2014and to dismantle the humiliating system that is destroying lives.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>P\u00e9ter S\u00e1rosi explained why they organized protests in front of the Hungarian parliament:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201c<em>If the government wants to push the dance culture outside to the margins, then we will bring it to the centre. If they want to occupy our spaces, then we will reoccupy the public and civic spaces. Dancing is about the autonomy of the person and bodily autonomy. It\u2019s a kind of embodied form of self-expression. And it\u2019s a very adequate way to protest, because when they are banning dance clubs, we go out to dance.<\/em>\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>When I asked what keeps them motivated,&nbsp; Istv\u00e1n G\u00e1bor Tak\u00e1cs replied:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201c<em>I always feel here at the UN as if we were in medieval times, talking about the best practices of burning witches\u2014like listening to a presentation in the plenary room about the evidence-based best type of wood for burning.<\/em> <em>I am very sensitive to injustice, and to people being hurt. In this field, that\u2019s what you see all the time. If we can mitigate the harm and reduce this kind of suffering\u2014not necessarily caused by drugs, but by people against each other\u2014if we can contribute to that, then that\u2019s a huge thing for me.<\/em>\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Peter added: \u201c<em>In Hungary the government calls us drug liberalisers, which is not true, we want regulation. 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