{"id":7449,"date":"2017-08-23T18:50:26","date_gmt":"2017-08-23T18:50:26","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/drogriporter.hu\/?p=7449\/"},"modified":"2025-05-29T09:57:38","modified_gmt":"2025-05-29T07:57:38","slug":"oscarinterview","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/drogriporter.hu\/en\/oscarinterview\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;Reconquering Drug Policies From Hysterical Minds&#8221; &#8211; Interview with \u00d2scar Par\u00e9s"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>The Catalonian parliament&nbsp;has recently adopted a new law to regulate the cannabis market. We interviewed \u00d2scar Par\u00e9s, the deputy director of&nbsp;the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.iceers.org\/\">International Center for Ethnobotanical Education,&nbsp;Research &amp; Service<\/a>&nbsp;to learn more about the cannabis reconquista movement in Spain.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Drugreporter:<\/strong> <strong><em>Catalonia is a region known for its progressive cannabis policies. Can you explain us, how did this policy start in the past and what is the current situation?&nbsp;<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>\u00d2scar Par\u00e9s<\/strong>: Even though that could be true, I would say that Catalonia should be better known because of its committed activists and the role of civil society. Someone told me that the progression of society is driven on the streets and not at the parliaments, and this is an example.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The Cannabis Social Club (CSC) model or the associations of cannabis consumers is an experiment that began in Spain 30 years ago when different groups of anti-prohibitionists and cannabis activists tried to avoid the&nbsp;highest&nbsp;risk&nbsp;associated to&nbsp;cannabis&nbsp;(law enforcement, of course) and began to explore how they could grow their own plants out of the circuit of the illicit market. The Spanish law is very peculiar, which is not really well known internationally, in that drug consumption&nbsp;has never been criminalised, so, possession for personal use, and consumption in private spaces is perfectly legal. Also the Supreme Court ruled that shared&nbsp;consumption&nbsp;is not a crime if there\u2019s no profit. The problem is&#8230;&nbsp;how do drugs arrive&nbsp;at&nbsp;the private space? That\u2019s the path that those brave ones have&nbsp;gifted&nbsp;to the&nbsp;new generation. And this is not a romanticised&nbsp;history, many of them have been prosecuted and criminalised on the way.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>On&nbsp;the other hand, the Health Department of Catalonia was&nbsp;one&nbsp;of the first in Spain to work under a Harm Reduction paradigm during the early&nbsp;90\u2019s,&nbsp;which&nbsp;dramatically&nbsp;reduced the public&nbsp;health&nbsp;issues&nbsp;linked&nbsp;to heroin&nbsp;consumption&nbsp;and also balanced the stigmatisation of&nbsp;drug users. At&nbsp;the same time, it\u2019s also true that that choice arrived late &#8211; between 1983 and 1990, 20,000-25,000 people died from drug overdose and 100,000&nbsp;acquired HIV through injecting drugs.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Those two factors came together in 2012 when <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.com\/news\/world-europe-17668617\">the Rasquera case&nbsp;<\/a>went viral and politicians could not stay out of the debate on cannabis regulation. At that moment, nearly 450 Cannabis Social Clubs existed in Catalonia, some of them with a thousand or more members.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The law that was&nbsp;approved&nbsp;at the end of June is the&nbsp;crystallisation&nbsp;&#8211; at the Catalan Parliament &#8211; of those 30 years of&nbsp;battle against an&nbsp;inefficient&nbsp;and&nbsp;unfair cannabis drug policy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><em>So the Catalonian parliament recently decided to legally regulate the cannabis market. How did you achieve this? Is this the result of civil society advocacy or is the initiative coming from political parties?&nbsp;<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>After Rasquera a discussion began among the&nbsp;Catalan politicians and ended two years later with a resolution, based on public health&nbsp;criteria, of the&nbsp;Catalan&nbsp;parliament that considered the CSC as a tool to reduce the risks associated with the&nbsp;illicit&nbsp;market. That resolution was suspended by the&nbsp;Spanish Constitutional Court because the&nbsp;government&nbsp;of Spain said that it was invading national competences.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>On the municipal level, in 2016, the city council of Barcelona&nbsp;approved&nbsp;a local regulation of the&nbsp;activity&nbsp;of the CSCs that allowed the nearly 200 CSCs&nbsp;to stay&nbsp;open&nbsp;and working in the city. One year later, the previous&nbsp;political&nbsp;party&nbsp;running&nbsp;the city council raided most of the CSCs and shut down&nbsp;nearly 40 of them. Nowadays, nearly 25 municipalities in Catalonia have approved their own regulation, although those regulations do not necessarily focus on the cultivation or transportation of cannabis, they are more linked to control of capacity, sanitation, hygienic conditions of the venue, etc.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So, at the end of 2015, a&nbsp;citizens&#8217; legislative initiative that proposed the regulation of the CSC activities, driven by civil society, achieved more than 65,000 signatories from&nbsp;the Catalans. That text was&nbsp;finally&nbsp;approved&nbsp;last&nbsp;June&nbsp;by the&nbsp;Catalan&nbsp;parliament. It\u2019s important to say that it was&nbsp;approved by the vote of 118 ministers of the 127 in total.&nbsp;That&#8217;s&nbsp;very strange (and significant) to witness in the political climate that Catalonia is facing nowadays.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><em>The model proposed by the Catalan parliament is quite different from the Dutch coffee shop system but also different from the commercial US legalisation model. Can you explain us how this new law would regulate the market?&nbsp;<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This is the first law in Europe to regulate not only the legal regime and operation of CSCs, but also collective cultivation and transport to headquarters, as well as measures to reduce health risks (specific provision for cannabis packaging and hygienic storage and for the testing of the product). The CSC can produce up to 150 kg of dried buds per year and there\u2019s a rule to avoid cannabis related tourism (you need to wait 15 days before you fill out your membership form and you become a member of the CSC).&nbsp;CSCs can\u2019t advertise themselves or make any kind of publicity.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The bad news is that on one side, the laws that regulate drug trafficking and public safety are state level and the Catalan regulation can\u2019t change this. On the other&nbsp;hand, the political party that is dominating the central government of Spain, the Partido Popular, is totally against CSCs and not very interested in having a mature discussion about cannabis regulation, so we can expect that they will bring it to the Constitutional&nbsp;Court, through which it would become automatically suspended. That\u2019s exactly what happened in the past with the attempts to regulate the CSC activities promoted by Navarra and the Basque Country, two regions in the north of the country.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But, if I can talk about the elephant in the room, half of the Catalan population is in favour of leaving Spain in October and we&nbsp;don\u2019t know exactly about the other half.. time will show. Even if this cannabis law is never truly applied, once a Parliament&nbsp;votes&nbsp;in favour (and with this overwhelming majority) of such&nbsp;law, the public&nbsp;perception of the cannabis&nbsp;regulation evolves in a way that is difficult to undo through scary drug tales in the media. Maybe we are just envisioning a draft of a future&nbsp;country&#8217;s&nbsp;drug policy. Time will tell. And also, hopefully drug policy reform won\u2019t stop with cannabis, which is a worry of different key players in the drug policy reform movement: the cannabis movement often seems to be only interested in cannabis reform. At ICEERS we are working to help advance drug policy, away from law enforcement approaches, and beyond cannabis.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"169\" src=\"https:\/\/drogriporter.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2017\/08\/maxresdefault-300x169.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-7453\" srcset=\"https:\/\/drogriporter.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2017\/08\/maxresdefault-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/drogriporter.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2017\/08\/maxresdefault-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/drogriporter.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2017\/08\/maxresdefault-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/drogriporter.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2017\/08\/maxresdefault-750x420.jpg 750w, https:\/\/drogriporter.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2017\/08\/maxresdefault.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><em>There were fears that Catalonia would become a haven for drug tourists. How does the reform address these fears?<\/em>&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As stated above, there is a 15 day waiting period from the moment you want to become a member until you are granted access into the CSC, which seems like a good measure to avoid issues related to drug tourism like The Netherlands has been facing with their coffee shop model. Also, remember it is a private user association model where you can only become a member if you know another member, who then vouches for you as you sign up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><em>Do you have any estimates of how much tax revenue the legal cannabis market would produce? Does the law say anything about what this tax revenue should be spent on?&nbsp;<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I don\u2019t know how much revenue it would produce. The law, in it\u2019s final dispositions also announces the possibility of creating a new tax for cannabis with the objective of reducing the risks associated with its consumption. This aspect and many others contained in the law will be developed during 2017. On the other hand, a CSC with 600 members requires a team of 10-12 to open the door every day and so all these people are hired by the association and their salaries contribute to the Social Security.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><em>What will happen now? What will the Spanish government say?&nbsp;<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Let\u2019s hope they don\u2019t do anything, but as I said, there is a good possibility that they will bring it to the constitutional court and cut off the decision of the Catalan Parliament right there.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><em>Do you think that the social club model can be applied in other countries too? Are there any lessons learnt that you can pass on to activists in other countries?&nbsp;<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Cannabis Social Clubs are an idea that the&nbsp;Spanish activists&nbsp;have created and it actually already has expanded through Europe and America.&nbsp;In Spain there are already several initiatives -t o regulate the cannabis market &#8211; in debate at the Spanish Congress but the majorities are not clear. I\u2019m confident that cannabis regulation will happen in the coming years, because, as surveys show, more than half of the Spanish society is in favour of regulating the CSCs, and, by the other side, the reform advocates are working hard &#8211; apart from the approximately 12,000 existing CSCs in Spain, nearly 15 federations of CSC coexist, and various reform actors such as <a href=\"https:\/\/sensiseeds.com\/en\/blog\/gepca-spain-experts-presenting-proposal-regulating-cannabis\">GEPCA<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.regulacionresponsable.es\">Regulaci\u00f3n Responsable<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/FederacionesdeAsociacionesCannabicas\/?ref=nf\">CFAC<\/a>&nbsp;and <a href=\"https:\/\/tupapelimporta.org\/tupapelimporta-ilp-pr-la-regulacion-de-autocultivo\">RCN_NOK<\/a>&nbsp;keep proposing models of regulation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Nowadays CSCs are only regulated in Uruguay and Catalonia. I had the privilege to participate in some debates related to the cannabis law in Uruguay in 2012, along with the well known activist Martin Barriuso and the&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.tni.org\/en\">Transnational Institute<\/a>&nbsp;and had the chance to see how that piece was included in the Uruguayan law, which was fascinating.&nbsp;Each country has its specific laws to take&nbsp;into account, so the model&nbsp;should be&nbsp;adapted. This is an unstoppable movement, because&nbsp;society is reconquering drug policies from hysterical minds. It\u2019s&nbsp;important to emphasise that the CSC&nbsp;is&nbsp;a non-profit, private user association model. This means&nbsp;that the aim behind it has to be community-based and transparent. I would recommend to read the publications of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ijdp.org\/article\/S0955-3959(17)30001-4\/fulltext\">Tom Decorte<\/a>&nbsp;and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ijdp.org\/article\/S0955-3959(16)30101-3\/abstract\">Vendula Belackova<\/a>&nbsp;to know more in-depth about CSCs. As we have witnessed, if&nbsp;CSCs&nbsp;are not&nbsp;properly&nbsp;regulated or managed&nbsp;the door stays open to bad&nbsp;practices. The CSC&nbsp;is&nbsp;a perfect model to learn and move forward to an&nbsp;integral&nbsp;regulation of the cannabis market.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Interview by Peter Sarosi<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>More info:<\/strong><br><br>2025 may update: \u00d2scar Par\u00e9s is the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.clinicasynaptica.com\/en\/\">CEO of Cl\u00ednica Synaptica<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/drogriporter.hu\/en\/node\/2741\">Our video interview with Oscar (2015)<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.parlament.cat\/document\/bopc\/225549.pdf\">The text of the law in the Official Bulletin of the Catalan Parliament (in Catalan)<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A couple of publications regarding the topic that Oscar&nbsp;co-authored:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ijdp.org\/article\/S0955-3959%2817%2930001-4\/fulltext#.WZsAkBhVxR4.twitter\">Regulating Cannabis Social Clubs: A comparative analysis of legal and self-regulatory practices in Spain, Belgium and Uruguay <\/a><br>&#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/osf.to\/1Nll9Mw\">Innovation Born of Necessity: Pioneering Drug Policy in Catalonia <\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Catalonian parliament&nbsp;has recently adopted a new law to regulate the cannabis market. 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